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Product:
iClone 7
Version:
7.71
Status:
Released in 7.8
Issue 6625
Curve Editor - Can not select transform channels in outliner
To Repro:
1. In iclone, make a new project. (clear scene)
2. Create a sphere primitive shape
3. Set some "move" transform keys on the sphere from the Modify window.
4. Launch Curve Editor
5. Try to select a position channel in the curve editor, like Position.PositionX (Mine will not let me left click mouse select an individual channel.)

I can however, select the individual channel by using the keyboard arrow up/down keys. (This is my only workaround right now.)

I have the same problem on avatar controls.

I can not use the menu: Select Plugins - Curve Editor - Convert to Curve data since it is grayed out.

The position channels are not locked.

There should be no need to do any sampling since I can see the curves, and can get to them through the arrow keys, I just can't left click select the channels directly. This seems like a bug to me, because every once in awhile, a left click will actually select a channel, but then I won't be able to do it again, or select another channel.

Using Iclone v7.71 and Curve Editor v1.31
OS: Windows 10
Related Issue:   Smart Gallery not working (Issue 6757)
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Submitted bytekanimator
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COMMENTS (11)
jdpix 
I feel your pain Tek & Robert....  it took me 3 months to figure out the conflict was coming from my Touchscreen...  

BY THE WAY!  I was having the EXACT same problem trying to click on the left menu of the new Smart gallery - same problem!  Somehow my touchscreen had gotten Enabled again - I went to device manager and disabled it then voila - I could use the Smart Gallery.

Just for fun, maybe go to Device Manager and twirl open  Human Interface Devices and see if there is something exotic there that might be causing the conflict.   (That's where I disabled my HID-Compliant Touchscreen) 

Robert - you might see if Razer has added any HID-Compliant drivers even though your Razer keyboard has no touch pad.  Also you might want to uninstall that keyboard and try a more Vanilla keyboard)...  Since Razer was the root cause of my problem - obviously my antenna is up when you mentioned a Razer Keyboard! 

Good luck - and no you are not imagining this problem - it is real!
robert_598607 
Hey, just responding to what jdpix found:

In my case I don't have a touch screen, though I can see how it could make sense for iClone to support touch-based scrolling in that case.

For input my PC just has a basic USB optical mouse (Gladius optical gaming mouse - Asus) and a USB keyboard (Razer Deathstalker) which has no kind of touch pad or similar feature. My monitor is only connected via HDMI and doesn't support touch.

jdpix, I wonder if you click and drag a property in the curve editor does it scroll the properties? I guess not.

Regards,
- Robert
jdpix 
Hi all- 
By any chance are you using A computer with a touchscreen? I have the exact same problem with my razor 17 inch laptop which has a touch screen… I disabled the touchscreen in windows preferences and was able to use the curve editor correctly
robert_598607 
Here is a screen recording to demonstrate reproducing this from a new project.

Initially where you see the mouse moving over the selected X/Y/Z properties I am clicking like mad :), then you can see I start dragging and I'm still clicking at the same time and you see that the selection will change that way, then you'll see the selection moving up and down in sequence from me using the keyboard.
robert_598607 
Hi,

I'm seeing this bug too - it basically makes the curve editor totally unusable here.

I'm using the trial version of iClone 7, in case that makes a difference for reproducing: 7.72.3818.1. (Windows 10), Curve editor plugin = v1.31.

I'm not seeing that anything special really needs to be done to reproduce this - it's just broken for me.

E.g. create a new scene, add a cube, open the curve editor with the cube selected.

If I left click and drag (which starts to scroll the properties) at the same time time then it will sometimes select in that case, or if only one item is selected then I can use the up/down keys to switch items.

My guess is that there's some kind of UI toolkit conflict between using the mouse to be able to click and drag the list to scroll it, vs clicking to select an item. Maybe the ability to click and drag to scroll should be disabled here, since you can anyway use the mouse wheel or scrollbar, or PGUP/DOWN.

I've basically been trying to evaluate whether it makes sense for me to buy iClone to help be able to clean up mocap data - unfortunately this answers my question :)

Regards,
- Robert
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